Wednesday, July 06, 2005

A Comment On Evolution....My Response

I got a thought provoking comment from an earlier post called The Absurdity Of Evolution. I decided to post my response here. You'll have to forgive the way my response is sort of jumbled and out of order, I haven't had time in recent days to really organize it.

Anonymous said...

I don't see how your life becomes more or less valuable if there is no true religion and everything is a product of natural, not yet fully know forces. We didn't lose our reason for living when we discovered that Zeus didn't control lightning, so why should it be any different if there is no Zeus or any other supernatural entities at all for that matter?

In fact, life becomes all that more rare, valuable, and precious when you can't just trade it in like a used car for an infinite life.

Things like an unlimited amount of gold would make gold lose it's value because we treasure these things due to their rarity. A limited lifespan makes life all that much more valuable.

If you have an eternal afterlife waiting for you after this one, then this life is really trivial. The only thing you really have to get out of the way is securing whatever goals your religious belief deems necessary while you're alive, and that's it. After you've got that out of the way, what good does this life do you? You've got an infinitely better one waiting on the other side.

Kind of makes this live trivial then.

This life would be a perfect example of child neglect if the whole system was set up like most people believe it is.

We're put here without a choice in the matter and seemingly without purpose. We're so lost and confused that we invent thousands of religions in an attempt to explain some of this madness and give us direction.

Billions of people are honestly mistaken and unknowingly pick the wrong religion or no religion at all (if such a thing as a "right" religion even exists), and according to Christian theology they end up burning in hell for what is essentially not guessing the right numbers to the "religion lottorey".

That's a load of bull****, not justice. It's a corrupt, flawed, sadistic, and injust system that has no place in a world supposeably with a benevolent creator who allegedly cares about it's creations. That would mean that the majority of people that are living, the people that will live, and the people that have ever lived merely existed for the sole purpose of adding more fuel to the hellfire (which an omnipotent creator would have known well and advance) for not guessing the right religion (assuming it's your religion for the sake of argument).

It's a system that doesn't care who you are or what you've done. Your individual merits as a human being is irrelevant. All that matters is what idea of reality you happened to think was most likely when you died.

It all boils down to that. And a system that completely ignores individual merit and only focuses on irrelevant opinions like belief in order to determine ones final destination is not a system worth having. [SIC]


My Response...



How can something with ultimately no real purpose in the grand scheme of things hold any value? Gold has great value now because it's rare but value and purpose are two different things. Something can have great value but serve no ultimate purpose, and ultimately it holds no value whatsoever anyway because it is made up of the same atoms and matter that all natural things are made of...It is as purposeless as you and I. It's more worthless than paper, because it's value is only good for an iota of a second in the grand scheme of things. If scientists theories on nature are correct then we are all living only to ultimately die. If nature is anything, it's nothing more than a cruel joke.

Finding purpose from non-purpose is the same as creating something from nothing. It can't be done. You can create purpose in your mind, but if everything is natural and accidental then it becomes clear that that "purpose" is nothing more than one's mind coping with the fact that no real purpose exists.

Truth is not relative. If God is real and he demands certain things from his creation in order for them to be able to save their souls then all of my denial and unbelief cannot kill him.

On the other hand if God is facade as you put forth, then all of my faith and church services cannot conjure him up.

God makes no attempt to hide the fact that entering heaven is as hard as a "camel passing through the eye of a needle". That's because in our sin nature we cannot look upon the face of God and live. But he sent his son to die in our place so that someday we can look upon his face and live...And not only live, but live in paradise with our Lord.

Man created various religions to serve his own needs, I believe not attempting to give us direction, but to serve his selfish desires. Selfishness has created all kinds of choices. You can find a religion to fit any fancy you might have. But truth does not know religion or choice. Truth is what it is. So you have to choose. The Bible says that everyone is born with the knowledge of God inset. But in our sin we suppress that knowledge. The correct "religion" is pre-known. Also, Jesus did not come to start a religion, but to reconcile man with God.


Nothing God makes is "trivial". Our ultimate purpose is not to get to heaven, our ultimate purpose is to give God glory. So this life does have purpose. If our only purpose was to get to heaven then yes, this would be a rather trivial pre-life.

This world is often a cruel and terrible place. God seems distant sometimes. But God makes it clear in his word that this world is terrible because man has been separated from God. Sin is the cause of such atrocities. And God lets these bad things happen so that his Glory can be shone in the midst of it. Whenever I have gone through loss and tragedy I remember a song by Fernando Ortega called Storm. It says "Sometimes it takes a storm to really know the light." God is allowing a hardship to occur so that on the other side of it the light will be so much brighter than before. If we didn't have the bad times than then often we become complacent and ungrateful for the good times. It's such a deep issue. There is so much more to be said.

Thanks for a great comment!

3 comments:

John said...

Excellent rebuttal. Evolutionist can never explain where concioussness came from. Great job.

Anonymous said...

and creationists can't spell i see...

Aaroncoal said...

Ok, so then do you have a comment about the post? Type-o's are a part of the Life And Times...we make them all the time here...cause we are humans.