Monday, April 11, 2005


When people accuse Republicans, especially us Christian Republicans, of being close-minded we should not cringe. That word has such horrible things that have been attached with it. But does it mean that you have hatred in your heart towards people who aren't just like you? NO, It means that you believe that truth is not relative. And if you believe that truth is not relative than you have risen higher than a lot of people intellectually...Congratulations! People who believe that truth is relative have no leg to stand on.

For instance I believe that the God of the Bible is the ruler of the universe. I cannot be both right and wrong at the same time. It cannot be true for me and false for everyone else. I'm either totally wrong on that or totally right. I guess my point is that people, mainly liberals toss out that term "close-minded" as if it's an insult...But once you learn what it really means you'll realize that close-mindedness isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Well since Blogger is giving me fits I have to cut this short. Tomorrow may be another anti-blogger fit...who knows.


John said...

Very well said! You have to know when to open your mind and when to close it. A completely open minded person would be fooled by everything.

Tom said...

I think this is all well and good, so long as you recognize that everyone else is coming up with their own parameters for the way things "absolutely are." I certainly have. The only relativity involved is that you apparently have different absolutes than I do. Neither of us should necessarily be happy about this, it just is this way.

However, this being the case, neither of us should then try to get Big Government to oppress the other via discriminatory legislative efforts, such as the continued second class subjugation of gays and lesbians. While some may refer to these efforts as "closedmindedness," I prefer the term "totalitarianism."

That, to me, is much more offensive then people willfully closing their minds and waiting patiently for salvation as they define it.

Aaroncoal said...

Fine, except for one thing. Truth is universal. The unitarian approach to religion or politics is a concept that holds no water. There is a right way and a wrong way and the answer applies to all at the same time.

You have to understand that God for us is bigger than the biggest government. His laws are bigger than the worlds laws. And so you can understand maybe why we would be against gay marriage. We don't answer to anyone but God. On the other end I don't think that Christians should choose to die on the gay marriage hill. We should vote our conscience but if we lose that battle we shouldn't do anything that isn't through the law.

God is bigger than all of it.

But if homosexuality is an abomination before God, than you can understand why we choose to oppose the union of the same sex.

Tom said...

You may believe that "truth is universal," but surely you understand that different people's perceptions of truth vary widely. As such, the universality of truth is not really what this is about.

You argue that God's laws are bigger than the laws of any government. Does it surprise you that I agree with you? I'm counting on it, in fact. I am in spiritual despair over the state of the world right now, in the hands of the neo-Phillistines. To me, and I know you and I will disagree on this and that's ok, if Jesus were to come back today, He would destroy the temples of Corporate Greed and American Superiority that shape every aspect of our lives. He would be apalled at the way we treat our poor, and he would have more than a few words to say to the televangelist Christian elites who vainly use His name to line their pockets. Somehow, the Christian emphasis has shifted away from doing good for the community and the world at large, and turned into an individualistic check-off list--do these things, go to heaven, do those things, go to hell--completely ignoring the veritable mountain of social justice and heirarchical leveling that Jesus persued. But no matter, that's just the basis for what I'm about to say.

Yes, God's laws are most definitely larger than ours. That's why I know that since some of God's people happen to be gay or lesbian, bisexual or transgendered, as they too were created in God's own divine image, we shall overcome the unjust laws and prejudices that still consume many people today. You will argue that it is God's law that homosexual orientation is a "sin," but I completely disagree. I don't believe in a God who would create someone to be attracted to someone of the same sex, only to turn around and condemn them for acting on it. God is indeed bigger than that.

But aside from the theological points, I believe it is clear, especially in the New Testament, that God does not want us to necessarily enforce Christianity through the government. What is "give to Caesar that which belongs to Caesar; give to God that which belongs to God" all about anyway, if not a clear separation of secular governmental institutions, such as taxation and, um, marriage, and sacred matters?

Civil marriage is a secular function of the government. Religious marriage is quite another matter, and I would fully support taking ALL marriages out of the state's hands and giving it back to the churches, for example. You could get a civil union, which gave you the rights, then get married in a church. But as long as they are inextricably tied, we will keep running into this issue.

If you're still reading, I thank you. Hope I didn't blow any fuses. Furthermore, if it's not already clear, I am writing in complete good faith. I hope this discussion can continue amicably, no matter how much we disagree with one another. (Or if you'd like to get it off of your blog, I respect that too...)